tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2595608247665759734.post3534527054197981621..comments2023-09-27T02:46:21.569-07:00Comments on Deacons Today: Musings on Diakonia and Diaconate: The New Cardinals and the Dalmatic of CharlemagneDeacon William T. Ditewig, Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/11525431509279159558noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2595608247665759734.post-21620754028062610652010-12-18T04:58:03.454-08:002010-12-18T04:58:03.454-08:00The "Dalmatic of Charlemagne" is actuall...The "Dalmatic of Charlemagne" is actually a Byzantine sakkos. The sakkos was orginally the imperial tunic of the basilios [emperor]. After the fall of Constantinople, the patriarch as the ethnarch began to wear the sakkos rather than the phelonion [chasuble]. Today, it is usual for most bishops of the Byzantine rite to wear the sakkos, although not so grand as the "Dalmatic of Chalemagne".<br /><br />Deacons in the Eastern Christian Churches do not wear a dalmatic. The sticharion [alb] is worn directly over the anterion [cassock]. It can easily be mistaken for a dalmatic as it is usually made from brocade. The orarion [stole] is worn over the right shoulder and the epimanikia [cuffs] are worn over the sleeves of the anterion.Protodeacon Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030718466163353016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2595608247665759734.post-9249197598219262002010-11-21T15:42:32.931-08:002010-11-21T15:42:32.931-08:00Over my years as a deacon, I have worked in all fo...Over my years as a deacon, I have worked in all four of the parishes in my small town. I am also often "on ceremony" at our cathedral and have been "on ceremony" as deacon in other arch/diocesan settings as well.<br /><br />--One of those parishes do have a set of four plain and simple white dalmatics with trims in the four liturgical colors: they also have a matching stole set for each of those four liturgical colors. There is only one set; however.<br /><br />--One other parish has an un-ornamented/neutral color dalmatic on top of which you wear a stole of the liturgical color that might be required for the season/day. <br /><br />--The other two have no dalmatics at all.<br /><br />--Our diocese has several matched liturgical dalmatic sets in its vestry. If you are a deacon assigned to work with the Bishop in any liturgical setting, there will be a dalmatic and stole which matches his set available for you to wear. His "Master of Ceremonies" packs them up and takes them to your local parish upon request.<br /><br />--I do not own my own dalmatic but own lots of personal stoles.<br /><br />FYI: The only time I customarily wear a dalmatic is on our Roman Catholic "high holydays": Christmas and Easter. I do not wear one normally when I preside: such as in baptisms, weddings, benedictions, communion-services, funerals, etc.<br /><br />Deacon Norb in OhioNorberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464878965952469636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2595608247665759734.post-71275703942108217802010-11-20T18:30:10.064-08:002010-11-20T18:30:10.064-08:00I agree, guys. In fact, the National Directory &q...I agree, guys. In fact, the National Directory "directs" that the provision of vestments for the deacon (including dalmatics) is the responsibility of the parish. During my Navy career, it was particularly dicey because you never knew from one chapel to the next whether you were going to have anything to wear or not. My wife made almost all of my vestments back then.<br /><br />It would seem that in at least in some places, this is in the process of changing, especially as older vestment sets are being replaced in a parish.<br /><br />And, John, sorry about the link, but that's the way the worship aid was written; I had no choice over it.<br /><br />BillDeacon William T. Ditewig, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11525431509279159558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2595608247665759734.post-52028355909620538802010-11-20T17:00:20.690-08:002010-11-20T17:00:20.690-08:00John raises an interesting point.
Every dalmati...John raises an interesting point. <br /><br />Every dalmatic and stole that I have is my own. Most were given to me as ordination gifts from family and friends. <br /><br />Personally, I think it's a little distracting to have a hodgepodge of styles on the altar -- and the dissonance becomes more glaring when mass is concelebrated, and the priests all match, but the deacon, like the cheese, stands alone... :-) <br /><br />Deacon GregDeacon Greg Kandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01343888383568998242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2595608247665759734.post-45204376215676224982010-11-20T15:17:59.773-08:002010-11-20T15:17:59.773-08:00The linked info was 99% not English. Not much help...The linked info was 99% not English. Not much help.<br /> Years ago the Vatican urged that whenever deacons assist at Mass they should wear a dalmatic--not just the stole and alb.<br /> However few parishes have a full set of dalmatics --although I have visited many parishes that have deacons, almost no dalmatics, but closets full of chasubles--many fairly new, most never used.<br /> One prof I had years ago at seminary said we should demand at least one full set of dalmatics for our parish--he called appearing in only an alb and stole::appearing in your liturgical underwear.Deacon John M. Bresnahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09705229739649571349noreply@blogger.com